SAN FRANCISCO — Kat and Leo, the unfiltered, uncensored duo spilling the lifestyle tea behind the Vanilla Swingers podcast, have officially been crowned Best Podcast of the Year at the ASN Awards 2025. Known for blending laugh-out-loud honesty with no-gatekeeping guidance on non-monogamy and ENM (ethical non-monogamy), the show has become a must-listen for curious couples, unicorns, and anyone who’s ever Googled “swinger club near me” at 2 a.m.
“This award means more than just a trophy,” said Kat. “We started Vanilla Swingers to be the podcast we wish we’d had when we were nervous newbies – no gatekeeping, no ego, just the messy, funny, sexy reality of figuring out ENM together. To have the industry and our listeners embrace that is surreal.”
Leo added, “We’re not experts. We’re the every-couple stumbling through our first club nights, podcasting from hot cars, and laughing at ourselves along the way. Winning Best Podcast of the Year is a reminder that authenticity resonates, and that our tribe of listeners is the real reason this show exists.”
Yet for all their openness on-mic, the duo behind Vanilla Swingers are famously anonymous off-mic. They’re regulars at industry events, mingling, hosting, showing up, yet somehow never appear in a single public photo. It’s become a viral whodunnit mystery in the adult entertainment world about who’s really behind the fastest-growing lifestyle podcast.
“We joked that if we accepted the award in person, we’d have to do it with bags over our heads,” Kat laughed. “Our parents still think we’re running a cooking show.” Leo jokes about having “a face made for radio,” but whether that’s the real reason or just part of the act has left listeners guessing.
Like Sia’s wigs or Marshmello’s helmet, the mystique isn’t an accident — it’s gasoline on the buzz. Fans can’t stop speculating: who are the people behind the best podcast of the year?
Find out what all the buzz is about at VanillaSwingers.com. Follow the mystery duo on Instagram @VanillaSwingers and stream the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
